Has DRI thought of providing off-site on-line data storage for us as a back-up to Drobo or to be used while performing the task of resizing? Thank you. Craig
Q&A About Using Drobo's Large Volume Sizes
Q: What is a “volume”?
A: The term volume is used to refer to a pool of storage that Drobo makes available to the operating system. With firmware release 1.1.1 Drobo allows users the ability to choose different volume sizes.
Q: What is the “large volume” feature?
A: With firmware 1.1.1 Drobo can support various volume sizes based on the file system format you use and the operating system it is connected to as shown below:
| HFS+ | NTFS | EXT3 (in beta) | FAT32 |
| 1,2,4,8,or 16 TB | XP: 2 TB Vista: 1,2,4,8,or 16 TB | 1, 2 TB | 1, 2 TB |
Q: What happens if my total storage is larger than the volume size?
A: If the protected storage from the drives put into Drobo is larger than the volume size, then Drobo automatically creates a second volume of the same size. If more than 2 TB of protected space were available, say for the case where it has four 1TB hard drives, then Drobo would present itself as two, 2TB disks to the operating system.
Q: What does it take to increase Drobo to a 16TB volume from an existing volume of a different size?
A: Increasing your current volume to a larger one requires a reformat where all data will be erased (hence you must migrate it to a different location beforehand). This is a limitation of existing file systems. Unfortunately, they do not allow on-the-fly upsizing. It’s analogous to increasing the size of your house by a factor of eight (8). You have to demolish the house, rebuild the foundation, and then rebuild the house. Of course, you will have to move your possessions in and out if you want to keep them.
In this example, increasing Drobo’s volume size corresponds to increasing the square footage of the foundation eightfold. Next you have to rebuild the file system – or the house in this analogy. Your possessions correspond to the data stored on Drobo.
Q: Should I increase my Drobo to be a 16TB volume?
A: There is no technical reason to do so. You may like the convenience of having one, very large volume where your data is stored. This can eliminate the mental overhead of finding where you put something. “In which drive (D:\, E:\, F:\,…) or disk volume (Drobo1, Drobo2, ….) did I store that important document?” Increasing the volume size will take time (procedure described below) and you will have to weigh the benefits for yourself.
Q: Will making Drobo 4, 8 , or 16 TB affect boot time?
A: The larger volume size you choose for Drobo, the longer Drobo will take to boot. This is because at boot up your computer scans disks to ensure they ready for use. A 16 TB Drobo is significantly larger than, for example, a 125GB drive in a notebooks, or even a 1 TB drive in a desk-side PC.
Q: Will making Drobo 4, 8, or 16 TB affect anything else?
A: Your computer will write its “file system meta data” onto Drobo. This is information it uses to store and access data on Drobo. Larger volume sizes require larger amounts of meta data. Hence, there will be more space that is reserved for a 16TB volume before it is actually used than a 2TB volume.
Q: Are there any risks with making Drobo 4, 8, or 16 TB?
A: No. Please note though that if you are migrating data off of Drobo onto other disk drives or using file sharing on other computers then your data could be at risk–depending on the reliability of those other devices. The safest thing to do is to copy your data onto another Drobo, then reformat your original Drobo, and then copy the data back.
Q: What happens if I don’t format Drobo to be larger than TB?
A: As you add larger disk drives, Drobo will present additional 2 TB volumes to your computer. You will see another drive letter (Windows) or volume name (OS X) on your computer.
Q: I really want to make my Drobo 4, 8, or 16 TBs. How do I do it?
A: Please be aware this can take several days from start to finish depending on how much data is on your Drobo. The steps are as follows:
- Make sure you update your Drobo and Drobo Dashboard to the 1.1.1 firmware release.
- Copy data off of Drobo onto other disk drives and/or computers to hold it.
- Double check to ensure you’ve copied all data off of your Drobo successfully!
- Use Drobo Dashboard to reformat your Drobo to the volume size you want.
- Copy data from those other disk drives and/or computers back on to Drobo.
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online?! my upstream internet tends to go at about 30-40kb/sec, for 2.7TB (a full drobo) thats 18,750 hours... or 781 days or 2 years 2 months!
i know some people have faster internet, but it would need to be a LOT faster
I think what he is asking is maybe the ability to hook up a large hard drive directly to the drobo, that it could off load its data (like a temp drive... that maybe only drobo could use) and then format/expand its size then copy back from. I would assume most people would be updating from 2TB to something larger, thus having a 1TB or a newer 1.5TB drive would allow this to happen (as long as the 2tb wasn't full? or doesn't need the parity data?)
to start, would the drobo be able to do the usb host support ?
Re: What happens if my total storage is larger than the volume size?
Our Drobo has 4 single terabyte drives (XP/NTFS system) and, as in the example provided in this Q/A, is partitioned into two 2TB volumes. However, we only seem to be able to access the volume that does not have the space allocation for overhead/protection yet there should be ~0.7TB available on the volume in question. Do we have a problem or will Drobo access this storage when the free volume is full?
Can somebody provide us with expected boot times for 1, 2, 4, 8, and 16 GB on HFS+? Thanks!
16 minutes for a 16TB formatted DROBO seems like a long time, but for guys like me who leave their computers on for WEEKS, then this isn't an issue. However, what about when the drobo goes into standby mode after a few minutes of inactivity. Will waking it up take 16 minutes? Or is that a fast process? Thanks
I was hoping this Q&A would cover what happens if you have Volume size set to 2TB and you try to insert a drive larger than 2TB (looking ahead to when 2TB drives are available).
Will you have to reformat to larger Volume size or does Drobo allow you to take advantage of drivers larger than the current partition size?
Hello?? No response to my question? This is a Q&A about the very subject I posted on the front page of the forums site. Any no one replies???
harribobo, i have a drobo formatted in HFS+ at 16TB connected to an iMac with FW800 and my iMac (with 10.5.6 on it) takes no longer to boot up and recognise the Drobo than it does to boot up without the drobo attached, and once the Drobo has started up itself it seems to take no longer to mount than any other external hard drive I have. the drobo itself takes a minute or two to start up - maybe 30 seconds longer than my iMac - but that is it. so it seems that it's only vista (or maybe an older version of Mac OS?) which gives a large volume a really long bootup time. in my drobo is 4x1TB drives in case you wondered, but i formatted at 16TB so i could add more storage
stevemc, as far as i remember reading somewhere, you have to have the extra space above 2TB as a separate volume, so it shows up as though your one big virtual drive has been partitioned.
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I just want to add that I find that setting my drobo size to 16TB did not increase my boot time significantly. It was closer to 3 minutes than 16 for the boot. Of course I leave my machine on 24/7 and only reboot it when required by OS point upgrades, so I don't know if that has any effect.
And the only reason I formatted as 16TB was simply that I didn't want separate volumes. I find that kind of defeats the point of having an enclosure with 4 1.5TB drives.
-= Ran =-
I have a Drobo mounted with four 1Tb hard disks. At the moment it is formatted to 4 Tb.
Is formatting at 8Tb/16Tb better than formatting at 4Tb?
Is there an optimum volume size at which drobo works best?
Jaideep said: I have a Drobo mounted with four 1Tb hard disks. At the moment it is formatted to 4 Tb. Is formatting at 8Tb/16Tb better than formatting at 4Tb? Is there an optimum volume size at which drobo works best?
I'd think it's best to say that if you want to expand your Drobo as much as possible into the future without having to end up with multiple volumes, you will want to set it as 16TB.
-= Ran =-
Just FYI, I have a FW800 Drobo formatted to 16TB. I put it in standby, and cycled the power, and plugged it back into my macbook pro (new unibody) and it took 2 minutes max to become usable again. The 16 minute thing must be a Windoze or worst case scenario warning.
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